TARTAREAN DESIRE WEBZINE
This phone interview with the German / Romanian gothic black metal band Agathodaimon was done in June 2004 by Cseke Róbert.
Ok then. I understand you are not in Germany right now...
Oh, we ARE in Germany. At least I am.
Oh, sorry. I was under the impression that you aren't. Anyway, how
things currently working out for you and the band, you know, generally,
gigs, concerts stuff like that?
We are working real hard on the album, as the last one was released
three years ago, so it's a tough situation to somehow know what to
from the new release and if people will like it or not. So far the
were very enthusiastic, and it seems that many people like it and we
hope that, yeah, we basically have a positive feeling about it - at
are very satisfied with the way the album turned out - we had a lot of
concerning the production writing and getting the new line-up, yeah,
good shape therefore we're quite positive concerning the things to
Ok, thats cool. You know, I wanted to ask you about latest
releases, cos I'm sure many would really like to hear something from
We recorded "Serpents Embrace", the new album, a few months ago,
think its a few months now, and the release will be on 21 of june, at
in Europe, I guess, it should be more or less in all countries in
I think - you live in Romania but work for a Swedish webzine,
Yes, that's right.
I dont know if our new album will be distributed by Rocris Music
The last ones were released to Rocris, it was thought to get them into
Romania, I guess it will be around either June or July when Romania
see the new album and yeah yeah yeah...
Heh, ok, great to hear that! The first thing I've heard from you guys
"Carpe Noctem", the demo, and it really kicked ass, and I liked
ever since so its really cool to hear this. Hmm, how did the recordings
you know, songs came together easily? Producers had a lot of input?
Yeah, we followed the tradition of our last album, "Chapter III",
like then, we realised that it's much easier for us to work
all songs. It was something like, everyone, at home, worked on song
structures, brought them into the rehearsal room or instantly went to
studio to do some kind of pre-production, and then everybody gave their
oppinions about it, and we worked as a team, together, on time
details and it was more or less new for us, because, umm, during the
two albums we, more or less, worked together in the rehearsal room and
everything, and this was quite a long process. It was somekind of thing
like, i dont know how to translate it into english, but it was
like too many cooks preparing the same food, or something like that. We
realized that it's much more fruitful and productive for us if someone
taking care of the songstructure, then the others are able to eighter
their critical oppinions or add some detail. It's like, if I do a song,
have the guitarstructure and maybe some ideas for keyboards and drums,
of course, it's up to the keyboarder and the drummer to just add their
style to the music, and then, of course, the band, together, would work
the structure to, lets say, give it some final polish, and, yeah, some
additional detail. That's the way we worked on "Chapter III" and now we
to progress with this kind of work for the new album but we recorded
hmmm, 10 songs, and on the album there will be 9 songs, and also a
wich I think will only be available through the band directly, through
website, or through Nuclear Blast because it's limited to only 1000
but it will feature the second "Demonia Dark" and some pre-production
from the last recordings. The regular CD will also feature some
parts for PC, like a screensaver, and also clips from making the video
"Seprants Embrace", and aslo some kind of Making Of for the album. I
there will be a lot to explore once the CD will be out in the stores,
and I think I should also mention a few things about the songs
the new songs are more or less in the tradition of "Chapter III" and
generally of everything we did so far plus some, yeah, we always try to
some new influences with every new album so you probably get to hear
traditional stuff and, of course, some fresh elements as it was done
less with every album.
So I think you're expecting it to do very well on the market. I
With both traditional and new stuff on...
Hmm, hmmm - I hope so, but, of course, everything is done on a, lets
natural base because we dont try to push ourselves into a certain
we dont try to focus our music on a certain market and, I guess, the
positive aspect about being in the band is that none of us is trying to
a living out of music. We're free to do everything we want, because we
have to have an eye on, lets say, record sales and were just free to do
anything we like to, and if it happens that a lot of people will like
stuff, then, of course, we're happy about it, cos I think every
more or less, releases music and hopes it will be available to as many
possible, but we just do the music to be pleased with our selves and be
happy and content with what we realized. That's what matters to us, at
Very glad to hear that! So are you planning on touring very soon? You
know, promote the new release...
Tour, of course, but, as I mentioned, we're not professional
some of us are either in University or following a day job, and one
different time-plans and we have to get some kind of "time-window",
everyone is able to go on tour - quite problematic on one hand - and
other aspect is that, let say, we are quite well known in certain
and other people have never heard of the band, so we would probably
support a big band, but this is something that is very expensive
you have to pay a lot to be able to go on tour, and, to us, it's a
difficult, because we feel that we already have a fanbase but we're not
enought to be headliners for a european tour. Take Sweden for ex. We've
never played in Sweden, so far we don't know if anyone would come to the
gigs, we do get a lot of fanmail, but I dont know anything about the
sales there for example. So we'll just have to see if there is a
to go on a full European tour, and we just have to figure things out
course we would be very happy to play in countries we've never played
before, like Romania as well, of course, it's always a matter of money
bad aspect of the music-business, can't do anything about it, I guess.
Yeah, but I remember you opened for pretty big names in the past, like
Cradle Of Filth and such... but anyway you just stick to the metal
festivals, right? I see you have a couple of those on your agenda.
I would say we're quite known in Germany, but, of course, when it
countries that are far away from Germany, it's always hard to do gigs -
the weekend for ex. - so a full tour would be needed to, lets say, get
Romania, and you can't just drive thousands of km for just one gig. We
usually take most possibilies to play live and with the new album we
reach new people, which will allow us to play in more exotic locations,
I'm just crossing my fingers that this might happen next.
As U remember, you came to Romania to record an album. The second
You probably know that our old vocalist is still living in Bucharest,
I visited him there, and we also recorded our second album in
it was a very cool experience, yeah.
How come you came all the way here, cos I really don't know many
that are so much devoted to one member... so it's all respect from
It was a really tough decision, because it wasn't very cheap to fly
members there and it was a very risky thing to do, because, when it
Germany, I know a lot of studios that are experienced concerning metal
bands, of course Sweden is also famous for great studios, but when it
to Romania, we didn't know if we would get good working conditions and
there and it was our romanian vocalist who had some connections.
was fun recording there, it was also very hard, because the working
just weren't similar to the ones we have experienced here. For ex.,
recorded in the evening and came back the next day, the settings on the
amplifiers were different, cos there was another band in the morning
who recorded some stuff, and used your amplifiers, and, of course, it
back the entire recording process, as all of a sudden another band uses
studio at the same time, and uses our equipment that we already had
soundchecked on. These were all obstacles in our way. But anyway, the
essence of Agathodaimon is that it is really important to have a good
friendship between current and old members. We're not the band that
kick someone out just cos they are not able to participate at a certain
period of time and, concerning Vlad, I consider him one of my best
and so I really wanted to have him back in our line-up. In all these
he couldn't really come back to Germany and in the end it was his
to leave the band, because in all those years he just lost the
for Agathodaimon, and his personal musical taste has changed also, and,
basically, that was the reason, but he also contribuited with some
for the new album, so we haven't lost contact, and maybe there's a
possibility to work again in the future, who knows...
Ok. So, basically, what your saying is, that playing in Agathodaimon
difficult. Do you ever get sick of everything, you know like, wish you
out of the music-business entirely or do you love it so much that you
Yeah, I would say that I'm, more or less, addicted to the
because most of my activities are connected to it, uhmm, I work as a
freelancer for german Metal Hammer, for ex I contribuited with a lot of
for different books and magazines, like A-Z of Black Metal , A-Z of
Metal and so on, and I think I'm more or less actively involved in the
for, I think, 10 years already, and it has influenced me a lot. I
live without music. I was very surprized when yesterday I received an
interview in which they asked me, "oh, what will you do for your tenth
birthday?" - I had just remembered that we had founded the band back in
1995, and it's almost 10 years, and to me it's like it happened
It's hard to realize that I've been working with this band for almost
years, so I just can't imagine that I will lose the enthusiasm for
general somehow - just much of my life I would say.
Thats cool! One thing I wanted to ask you: every review I ever read,
know, about anything that you did was very positive. Do you ever get
criticism, I mean harsh criticism from media or fans or such, do they
get to piss you off?
Usually yes. There are reviews here and there that are quite negative
when it comes you have to see it in an objective way, cos when someone
really has criticism that is based on objective review then you're fine
it. We are not a perfect band, there's lots of things we can improve
will always try to get better with every release, of course, but you
say the sound wasn't very good and the songs were too progressive or
whatever, but the press usually likes it and the fans give us good
There's always the matter of taste, of course, because if you heard
The Angel", the first album, and you liked it, then you're getting into
trouble when you listen to the new album, cos an awful lot of time has
passed since then and the band changed a lot in that period, and the 2
members we have gave a new direction to everything. We are not a band
tries to keep a style going from album to album like, let's say ac/dc,
have their own style, and they're doing cool music, but we just try to
elements with every album, so I really respect the opinion of someone
says, "oh, I really liked the first album, but the third I didn't like
much", or whatever, it's a matter of taste. When someone says the new
sounds like shit or the songs sound like they had been written in 5
or something, I wouldn't worry about it, cos I really know how much
we put into it and therefore those kind of negative reviews, or
call them, don't affect me at all.
Any major changes
the bands life? Something that will really knock Agathodaimon off its
current path? Stuff like line-up changes, changes of style etc... in
future I mean, not now of course...
I would say that we found our working method when recording "Chapter
We have the same kind of approach concercing songwriting and concerning
feel we want to express. For me, "Serpent's Embrace" is kind of a
progression from "Chapter III", we just took all the elemts we had and
to work on tone elemetns in our music and the weaker aspects of the
and the biggest difference would be in vocals this time, and our new
keyboardist is very much into progressive keyboard sounds and strings
other new sounds, but people really like the new sound - it's not
style change, it's more like a progression, as I've said, we used the
studio as with "Chapter III", and the producer knew us, so, I guess, we
more or less do the same with our next album. There probably won't be
big changes with the new one.
I really wanted to ask you something: who are your main musical
influences, and are there any personal heroes out there in music-world,
know, a band you'd love touring with more than any other, someone who
so much effect on you, that you consider them your idols? Any such
It's tough to say, because most bands I really enjoyed are, more or
split up, like, let's say, Celtic Frost, Autopsy, but it would be a real
honor to play somewhere where Slayer would be playing as well... One
favorite bands, and it would be really cool to play together with
Borgir for example or In Flames, but other musicians I really enjoy are
Diamond and all the black metal stuff generally... Emperor don't exist
anymore so it's a really tough thing, but there are a lot of new bands
In Flames or... Samael, if they would do a tour, I would be really
we could do something with them.
Yeah, so this is practically the kind of music you're listening to at
home. Are your children, grandchildren going to be listening to the
kind of things you think? Are they going to be growing up to dark,
sounding metal music?
I would say, they will probably enjoy hip-hop or something like that,
because, usually, children dislike what parents like ... if we will go,
"this is cool", they'd probably say, "oh, that sounds awful! I want to
listen to, I don't know, MC Hammer", or I dont know what will be the
then, but who knows what will happen.
Yeah, you're right - uhhm - what would you say is the best thing about
playing in Agathodaimon?
Well, uhhm, I would say that the chemistry in our band is quite cool
we like all the other muscicians. It's not like going to the rehearsal
and saying, "oh, I don't want to go through all this again", so - umm -
recording, the playing and just being in the position of playing music
recording it is a very cool thing, because when I, let's say in 88,
to bands like Iron Maiden, Slayer, I never thought that I'll ever be
playing in a band and being able to go on stage, or even on tour, or
our own album, so it's a really cool thing to be able to do all this
yeah, especially I'm very happy with what we made with Agathodaimon.
Ok. Let me tell you something, you might not be aware of: around
parts, actually me and all my friends and everyone I basically know, we
appreciate your music a lot and we consider you one of the "bigs", even
you don't have the name in all regions of the world.
Hey, that's great!
Yeah, Yeah. How do you feel about interviews in general?
Oh, it depends. I really like to talk about the music, but somehow
always a little difficult to find the right answers to some questions
giving interviewers fresh answers when I've already answered some of
same questions before. All in all, it's a cool thing to be able to talk
the people who are listening to the music and ask their oppinions and,
that's a cool thing, to just get some feedback about your work.
Hmmm, ok, ok. That's basically it, I think. I kinda ran out of
so I'd like to thank you for taking the time to do this interview for
and if you might want to share anything with the readers of our zine,
fans, I'll just leave the final words to you.
I'd like to thank those who supported the band in the past and who
listened to our music and are interested to have a listen to our new
Of course, we will have a lot of information about it when it comes
our website, and, yeah, I think I saw a review a few weeks ago on
Desire, and I hope everyone who's into dark metal will give the band a
chance and just check it out...
I'm sure they will! I wish you loads of luck from now on in touring
concerts and everything, and I'd like to thank you again for taking the
to have this talk.
Have a nice evening.
Oh, you too, bye!
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