When the two brothers Igor and Max Cavalera formed their band Sepultura back in 1983 they were only 14 and 15 years old respectively. Few probably believed at that time that the Belo Horizonte natives and pioneers on the Brazilian metal scene would become one of the most influential and respected extreme metal bands of all time.

Following the recent release of an excellent double live DVD "Live In São Paulo" Tartarean Desire chief editor Vincent Eldefors had a chat with drummer and founding member Igor Cavalera to discuss everything from the DVD to samba and the possibility of him working with his brother again on November 22nd, 2005.

How are you doing?
I'm doing good, man. Doing good.

You have recently release a great live DVD. Are you satisfied with the result?
Yeah, it's great, we wanted to show a really special show, especially here in Brazil. It has been very long since we released a live video and we wanted to show the crowd in Brazil.

What has the media response been like?
Great so far, it's only just come out but the response has been great. A lot of people don't have the chance to see us live and now they have a chance to see it.

Do you think you will be able to attract younger fans with a live DVD like this?
I don't know, actually, hard to say who we're going to attract with a thing like this. It's mainly just a representation of us live. I really don't know who is going to be attracted by this, you know. Hopefully a lot of people will like it, we don't have an idea to attract a younger or older crowd or anything like that. We do what we do.

Have you been planning this DVD for a long time?
Not really planned but from Derrick's part, the part that he filmed, that was like planned a long time ago. He really wanted to do that but for the rest of the DVD we just wanted to show people what we want to do live and how we do stuff live. That's the most important thing, to really represent what Sepultura live is.

This week you also received gold certification in the US for your "Roots" album, how does that make you feel?
Cool, but it's weird because it's an album that came out such a long time ago. But it's ok, I'm happy with it.

Which album are you most satisfied with?
I don't know, I have really strong feelings from all our albums. I don't have a favorite, I have like favorite parts from different albums. I can't pick an album that I like more than the others.

Not even the new one?
The new one is really strong, as strong as the ones we did in the past. It's hard to say which one is my favorite.

You have developed your sound further with the new album "Dante".
Yeah, I think so. We wanted to do something different, the idea of something more like a soundtrack is cool. It's something we have wanted to do for a long time. It's nice to work in a different way but in the end I think it's great, I really enjoy how we did it.

Do you think it's necessary to move forward with each album if you want to keep the fire burning as a band?
Yeah, otherwise I think it's better to stop if you're not going to do something different, that you're not going to beat yourself. When you don't have a new vision I think it's better to stop with everything you do, if you don't have the challenge of growing.

You're a big fan of the Italian's [Dante Aleghieri] work?
Yeah, definitely, he's a big part even of Brazilian culture. Nobody has ever represented hell the way he did.

You were only 14 years old when you formed Sepultura together with your brother. Had you played in any bands prior to that?
No, actually it was Sepultura from day one. We had played instruments before but nothing that you could really call a band. It was more like playing and having fun.

What did you listen to back then and what drove you to form a band?
Mostly that death metal at that time was not popular at all. That's mainly what got us into writing music like that. Black metal, death metal, things like that, a lot of hardcore music. A mix of all of that was what we were into at the time.

Do you have any relatives who are musicians or is it just the two of you?
No, just music lovers really, no big musicians in the family. That's how we started, as fans of music. Our parents were also fans of our music.

Have they been to many of your concerts?
Yeah, definitely, especially my mom. My father died when we were really young but my mom has been to everything from concerts to anything we do. My mon is really supportive.

What are the biggest differences between Brazil back then and Brazil today?
Well, musically I think there are a lot more bands and musicians. Especially aggressive music, we were pretty much the only band back then. Right now there is way more underground movement in Brazil which is great. Brazil is a rather laid back country, people really enjoy themselves. That makes the country so special.

What are your feelings towards the Brazilian death / thrash metal scene today. Do you still follow the bands in the country?
Some of the bands are doing a really good job.

Do you listen to a lot of traditional music and samba?
Not really, I listen to some that is more interesting. There is also a lot of stuff that sounds the same so I don't listen to all of it. There's always space to listen to new musicians. I listen to percussionists, people who play with a lot of soul. I'm happy that I live here and get to see a lot of bands.

Do you listen to old aggressive bands such as Vulcano and Sarcófago?
No, not really. I listen to a lot of old-school stuff but not really from Brazil, a lot of the stuff is not that good. Especially Sarcófago, I didn't enjoy it that much.

Are there any younger bands who you think deserve more attention today?
Yeah, there are a lot of young bands and musicians, all the way from black metal to..., all sorts of music.

Do you like Angra?
No, I don't like heavy metal, melodic stuff. I like more aggressive music, never been into Dream Theater or Angra or things like that.

Back in 2002 you had a side project with the Biohazard guitarist Billy Graziadei, what happened with that?
We just had many ideas that we wanted to do. We've never had time to sit down together in a studio but we'll see in the future what happens. It all depends on what we're doing with our bands.

Maybe now that Biohazard has called it quits?
Yeah, maybe, but Billy is always very busy with a million projects. Maybe now that he doesn't have Biohazard it will be easier so I'd be ok with doing something.

What music was it planned to be?
I don't know, probably different from what we do with our bands, try some different stuff.

Do you write any music that doesn't fit with Sepultura?
Yeah, we always try to write different stuff by ourselves, you know, Andreas and me, we always have different ideas. A lot of that don't go nowhere.

Do you think there's any chance for you working together with your brother again in the future?
Yeah, maybe in the future. Right now we are both so busy with our bands so it's hard to say but maybe in the future. It would be great to work together again.

Do you follow his career and albums as well?
Actually, my mom showed me some of their latest album, I think it's better than the other one he did. A little more aggressive, I like it.

Does he come to your shows?
No, no, he's so busy and we're always on tour both of us so we don't get to see each other that much.

How do you feel about touring today? Is it as much function as it was ten years ago?
No, not really. When you have a family touring becomes more and more painful. I like to be at home with my family so touring becomes a little boring after so many years doing it.

Is it absolutely necessary for Sepultura to tour today?
I don't know. Maybe it is necessary but I don't know how much. That's the most important thing, how many shows are you going to do but it is necessary for any band to tour.

Are you satisfied with your new record company SPV?
Yeah, I think they're doing a good job.

How are they different from Roadrunner?
I don't know, really, it's hard to say. When we were leaving Roadrunner they didn't show that much interest in the band and the relationship was very bad.

Earlier this year you played in the United Arab Emirates, in Dubai, what was that like?
Weird, because a lot of people who where there live there but they're not really from there. There were a lot of Americans, Europeans...., it was great. It's a country we haven't seen before so it's really cool to go there. One of the parts I enjoy the most is to play where I haven't played before.

Where do you think you have most of your fans?
I think it's Europe.

Not Brazil?
Well, in Brazil it's different because it's not only the music. We're one of the biggest acts ever.

Is it difficult going out without people recognizing you?
No, that's ok, people are really respectful and it's not like a rockstar kind of thing.

That was pretty much it, thank you for the interview and good luck with the new album and everything else in the future!
Alright, thank you.

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